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y eye
07-01-2009, 09:21 PM
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y eye
07-16-2009, 01:35 AM
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Author: Daniel Möllendorf (Dec 02, 2008) -
Via BIOS update
Many motherboards have already been made compatible to the
new Phenom II processors.
If you have a board with a 790GX, 790FX, 790X or 780G chipset,
the possibility that you can use a Phenom II on the device is quite high.

The low-priced 790GX board Biostar TA790GX A2+ already supports
the Phenom II. (picture: PCGH)
Biostar's Phenom II-ready line-up includes AMD 770, 780G and 790GX
as well as Nvidia nForce 720a, 750a SLI and GeForce 8200 motherboards.

Biostar update:..
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Biostar update: 01July09

1.)> T-Series Home (http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/t-series/index.php) AM2+, AM3

* The AMD pull-down window of the T-Series window will display the newly updated boards.
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DFI update:

The compact DFI board Lanparty JR 790GX-M2RS with 790GX chipset
is compatible to AMD's 45 Nanometer CPUs. (picture: PCGH)
Trailing behind rivals like Asus (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=22804&catid=2&highlight=AM3), MSI (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=22849&catid=2&highlight=AM3), Gigabyte (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=22973&catid=6&highlight=AM3), Biostar (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=23045&catid=2&highlight=AM3) and ECS (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=23171&catid=2&highlight=AM3),
DFI has now listed which of its AM2(+) motherboards are to
support AMD's upcoming AM3 Phenom II processors.

Set to debut in Q1, the 45nm Phenom II models will work with the:
DFI update:
- UT 790FX-M2R
- DK790FX-M2RS
- DK 790FXB-M2RS
- DK 790FXB-M2RSH
- DK 790GX-M2RS
- JR 790GX-M2RS
DFI update:

To safely hook up an AM3 CPU to any of the six boards above,
the user will have to download an install the latest version
available on DFI's website.

Probably around January the first Phenom II CPUs will be available to
those users who want to upgrade their system. Asus, Biostar,
Elitegroup, Gigabyte and MSI already listed their current AM2+
motherboards compatible to Phenom II. Asrock told us that on
December 9, BIOS updates for the boards A770DE, A780GXE and
AOD790GX will be published. On their website DFI writes that the
motherboards listed in the charts will support "futurity AMD CPUs” -
we think that Phenom II is meant by that.

Especially boards with the current AMD chipsets are suitable for the
latest AMD CPU generation. Some boards with Nvidia chipsets also
offer support. We put the most important Phenom II compatible
motherboards in charts and added some pictures of the possible
upgrade candidates to the gallery."Full lists: Phenom II: Those (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,669103/News/Phenom_II_Those_boards_support_the_new_AMD_CPUs/)
boards support the new AMD CPUs - Phenom II, Phenom II
compatible, 790GX, motherboards - PC Games Hardware

DFI Update 01JUly09:
1.) Phenom II: Those (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,669103/News/Phenom_II_Those_boards_support_the_new_AMD_CPUs/)

2.) 2009-05-14 New Choice for AMD mainstream O.C. Platforms - LANParty DK 790X-M2RS (http://lp.lanparty.com.tw/portal/CM/cmpress/cmpresscontent/MBPressContentWindow;jsessionid=894355D23485FA1454 73CEB0B8BAF498?title=1063&action=e&windowstate=normal&mode=view)
LANParty AMD series motherboards, including the highest end 790FXB family and multi-media 790GX family....
DFI LANParty:The Best OC Platform! Overclock, Motherboard, Intel, AMD (http://lp.lanparty.com.tw/portal/CM)
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DFI update:
The compact DFI board Lanparty JR 790GX-M2RS with 790GX chipset
is compatible to AMD's 45 Nanometer CPUs. (picture: PCGH)
Trailing behind rivals like Asus (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=22804&catid=2&highlight=AM3), MSI (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=22849&catid=2&highlight=AM3), Gigabyte (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=22973&catid=6&highlight=AM3), Biostar (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=23045&catid=2&highlight=AM3) and ECS (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=23171&catid=2&highlight=AM3),
DFI has now listed which of its AM2(+) motherboards are to
support AMD's upcoming AM3 Phenom II processors.

Set to debut in Q1, the 45nm Phenom II models will work with the:
DFI update:
- UT 790FX-M2R
- DK790FX-M2RS
- DK 790FXB-M2RS
- DK 790FXB-M2RSH
- DK 790GX-M2RS
- JR 790GX-M2RS
DFI update:

To safely hook up an AM3 CPU to any of the six boards above,
the user will have to download an install the latest BIOS version
available on DFI's website.

Probably around January the first Phenom II CPUs will be available to
those users who want to upgrade their system. Asus, Biostar,
Elitegroup, Gigabyte and MSI already listed their current AM2+
motherboards compatible to Phenom II. Asrock told us that on
December 9, BIOS updates for the boards A770DE, A780GXE and
AOD790GX will be published. On their website DFI writes that the
motherboards listed in the charts will support "futurity AMD CPUs” -
we think that Phenom II is meant by that.

Especially boards with the current AMD chipsets are suitable for the
latest AMD CPU generation. Some boards with Nvidia chipsets also
offer support. We put the most important Phenom II compatible
motherboards in charts and added some pictures of the possible
upgrade candidates to the gallery."Full lists: Phenom II: Those (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,669103/News/Phenom_II_Those_boards_support_the_new_AMD_CPUs/)
boards support the new AMD CPUs - Phenom II, Phenom II
compatible, 790GX, motherboards - PC Games Hardware

DFI Update 01JUly09:
1.) Phenom II: Those (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,669103/News/Phenom_II_Those_boards_support_the_new_AMD_CPUs/)

2.) 2009-05-14 New Choice for AMD mainstream O.C. Platforms - LANParty DK 790X-M2RS (http://lp.lanparty.com.tw/portal/CM/cmpress/cmpresscontent/MBPressContentWindow;jsessionid=894355D23485FA1454 73CEB0B8BAF498?title=1063&action=e&windowstate=normal&mode=view)
LANParty AMD series motherboards, including the highest end 790FXB family and multi-media 790GX family....
DFI LANParty:The Best OC Platform! Overclock, Motherboard, Intel, AMD (http://lp.lanparty.com.tw/portal/CM)
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Asus update:
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Asus update 01July09: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. (http://www.asus.com/ProductGroup2.aspx?PG_ID=mKyCKlQ4oSEtSu5m)
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y eye
07-16-2009, 01:42 AM
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Gigabyte update:..
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Gigabyte update: 01July09
GIGABYTE - Product - Motherboard - Products (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_List.aspx?VenderType=AMD&CPUType=socket+am2%2b)
AMD Socket AM3 (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_List.aspx?VenderType=AMD&CPUType=socket+am3)http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/images/space_gray_1x1.gif
AMD Socket AM2+
(AM3 CPU Support) (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_List.aspx?VenderType=AMD&CPUType=socket+am2%2b)
AMD Socket AM2 (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_List.aspx?VenderType=AMD&CPUType=socket+am2)
AMD Socket 940 (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_List.aspx?VenderType=AMD&CPUType=socket+940)http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/images/space_gray_1x1.gif
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y eye
07-16-2009, 01:59 AM
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ECS update:
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ECS update 01July09:
Socket AM3 (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProdMBModel.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=68&MenuID=145&LanID=0)
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/images/ECS_buttom_03.gif Socket AM2+ (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProdMBModel.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=43&MenuID=123&LanID=0)AMD Chipset (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProdMBModel.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=43&MenuID=123&LanID=0#103)
nVIDIA Chipset (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProdMBModel.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=43&MenuID=123&LanID=0#101)
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/images/ECS_buttom_03.gif Socket AM2 (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProdMBModel.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=35&MenuID=46&LanID=0)AMD Chipset (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProdMBModel.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=35&MenuID=46&LanID=0#103)
ATI Chipset (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProdMBModel.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=35&MenuID=46&LanID=0#102)
SiS Chipset (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProdMBModel.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=35&MenuID=46&LanID=0#4)
VIA Chipset (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProdMBModel.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=35&MenuID=46&LanID=0#5)
nVIDIA Chipset (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProdMBModel.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=35&MenuID=46&LanID=0#101)
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FOXCONN update:
..................................... A79A-S Digital_life_A79A-S (http://www.foxconnchannel.com/Product/Motherboard/Digitallife08/index_A79A-S.htm)
A7DA-S
A79A-S
M61PMV
A7GM-S 2.0

FOXCONN update 01July09:
Foxconn Motherboards support windows 7 RS (http://www.foxconnchannel.com/Product/Motherboard/Windows7/index.html)

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MSI update:
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MSI update 01July09: MSI Global – Computer, Laptop, Notebook, Desktop, Mainboard, Graphics and more (http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodpage2&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171):
AM3 Socket AM2+ (AMD K9) (http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodpage2&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171&cat3_no=537)
Socket AM2 (AMD K9) (http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodpage2&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171&cat3_no=351)
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y eye
07-16-2009, 04:42 AM
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SB 750 Motherboard lists update:
The following should be viewed as an outline.
It does not represent an OEM final list.
See the OEM Motherboard Home page for part numbers and all reference material.

ASUS:
M3A79-T Deluxe

Biostar:
TA790 GX3 A2+(rev. 5.x)
TA790 GX A2+(rev. 5.x)
TA790 GX 128M(rev. 5.0)
TA790 GX XE(rev. 5.0)
TA790 GXB A2+(rev. 6.x)

DFI:
DK-790FX-M2RS
DK-790FXB-M2RSH
DK-790GX-M2RS
JR-790GX-M2RS

ECS:
A790GXM-A (V1.0)
A780 GM-A Ultra (V1.0)

FOXCONN:
A7DA-S
A79A-S

Gigabyte:
GA-MA790GP-DS4(rev. 1.0

MSI:
DKA 790 GX
DKA 790 GX Platinum
KA 790GX
KA 790 GX-M


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y eye
07-16-2009, 04:45 AM
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AMD Phenom II CPU multiplier, Vcore and fourth core unlock

Unlock an inexpensive AMD Phenom II 710 X3 CPU with 3 cores and multi lock to an
AMD Phenom II X4 Engineering Sample with 4 cores, Vcore selection and unlocked multi !

BSP Only BIOS option allocates the L3 Cache to the first CPU core ...

Usually one leaves the L3 cache on All Cores, so that the L3 cache can be used by all CPU cores.
Since this value is by ASRock BIOS default on BSP Only, it was a good reason to compare these two values with some benchmark tests.
BSP stands by the way for Boot Strap Processor and the L3 Cache Allocation BSP Only setting means that one assign the L3 cache only to the boot CPU instead of sharing the fast L3 buffer on all cores.
........A.)BSP Only BIOS option allocates the L3 Cache to the first CPU core ... (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/amd_phenom_ii_bsp.html)

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Thus we set the L3 Cache Allocation value in the Advanced BIOS directly after the PC boot up to BSP Only,
save settings to the BIOS with F10, wait until the PC show the BIOS post and go directly once again with F2 key into the BIOS.

.......... http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_3.jpg

........B.)Unlock the fourth Core with ACC ... (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/amd_phenom_ii_acc.html)
AMD Phenom II CPU multiplier, Vcore and fourth core unlock

Unlock an inexpensive AMD Phenom II 710 X3 CPU with 3 cores and multi lock to an
AMD Phenom II X4 Engineering Sample with 4 cores, Vcore selection and unlocked multi !

Unlock the fourth Core with ACC ...

Now it's time to activate the 4th CPU core.
This can succeed by changing the ACC - Advanced Clock Calibration setting from Disabled to Auto.

.......... http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_4.jpg

When ACC is on Auto, we save and exit the BIOS again with F10 and let the PC boot up again.

.......... http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_5.jpg

y eye
07-16-2009, 04:48 AM
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AMD Phenom II X3 CPU becomes at first an AMD Phenom II X4 CPU ...

If everything is working well and if the fourth core of the CPU can be unlocked, the BIOS should now already show an AMD Phenom II X4 CPU during BIOS post.
Unfortunately it doesn't work with all triple-core processors, but the chances are good.
If the PC does not work stable after this mod, there is no other way to disable the ACC option.
And if the ACC Auto setting doesn't increase the number of cores, there is still some reason for hope,
because depending upon the motherboard used it can occur that one must apply reset to activate the 4th core.

,,,,,,,,,, http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_6.jpg

A look into the BIOS shows now an AMD Phenom II 710 processor with four cores, each clocked with 2600 MHz,
512KB L1 cache, 2048KB L2 cache and 6144KB L3 cache size.
This is a nice first result if (!) the fourth core really works prime stable.

.......... http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_7.jpg

The L3 Cache Allocation "BSP Only" setting can be saved now already with the "All Cores" value,
but one can leave it on BSP Only, since the performance difference is almost not noticeable.

.......... http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_8.jpg

Press the Reset Button and with a bit of luck amaze once again ... (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/amd_phenom_ii_multi.html)

y eye
07-16-2009, 04:51 AM
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Press the Reset Button and with a bit of luck amaze once again ... (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/amd_phenom_ii_multi.html)

AMD Phenom II CPU multiplier, Vcore and fourth core unlock

Unlock an inexpensive AMD Phenom II 710 X3 CPU with 3 cores and multi lock to an
AMD Phenom II X4 Engineering Sample with 4 cores, Vcore selection and unlocked multi !

Press the Reset Button and with a bit of luck amaze once again ...

When one follow this correct order of BSP Only and ACC modification (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/amd_phenom_ii_unlock.html), it's now time to press the reset button and with a bit of luck the processor is detected as Engineering Sample !
This amaze also me, because no CPU before had such a Phenomenon - also no "Phenom" processor.

.......... http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_9.jpg

A look into the BIOS strengthens the first guess that this ominous transformation really worked.
And what is the benefit of an AMD Engineering Sample ?
Right, it's possible to change the multiplier and the Vcore !

.......... http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_10.jpg

The multi is unlocked ...

The maximum CPU frequency is now with 200 MHz reference clock no longer limited to 2600 MHz,
but 200 x 31.5 = 6300 MHz !!!
Anyway, the next look should be turned very fast to the Vcore, because the Vcore is now about 1.55 V and
that is very high for a simple air cooler with low revolutions.

.......... http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_11.jpg

The multi is selectable between 0.5x and 31.5x ...

Here one can see the new unlocked multiplier selection beginning with 0.5x ...

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y eye
07-16-2009, 04:53 AM
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... up to 31.5x and this without !!! ES or BE (Black Edition) processor inside of the PC.

.......... http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_13.jpg

The Vcore is selectable between 0.6000 and 1.8625 Volt ... (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/amd_phenom_ii_vcore.html)

AMD Phenom II CPU multiplier, Vcore and fourth core unlock

Unlock an inexpensive AMD Phenom II 710 X3 CPU with 3 cores and multi lock to an
AMD Phenom II X4 Engineering Sample with 4 cores, Vcore selection and unlocked multi !

Vcore is selectable between 0.6000 and 1.8625 Volt ...

The CPU voltage is now also unlocked and from now on just limited by the motherboard.
From 0.6000 Volt up to the highest motherboard Vcore ...

.......... http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_14.jpg

With the ASRock A790GXH/128M test board, the limit is amazing 1.8625 Volt.

.......... http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_15.jpg

For a first test I've selected a higher multi of 15x with a lower CPU voltage of 1.40 Volt.

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y eye
07-16-2009, 04:55 AM
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The processor with undreamed of settings ...

This is the first result of the previous written BIOS settings.
Of course this CPU is much more overclockable on such a low voltage, but this is explained in a seperate Workshop (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/workshop.html) overclocking guide.

.......... http://www.ocinside.de/assets/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_unlock/amd_phenom_ii_unlock_17.jpg

ACC and BSP Only modification result ... (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/amd_phenom_ii_result.html)

The AMD Phenom II processors is really Phenomenal !
Because there is not only the chance of four CPU cores and more cache by the ACC mod with a little bit luck,
but perhaps it is additionally possible to unlock the multiplier and unlock the Vcore limit with the BSP Only mod.
Unfortunately it is necessary to have luck, because even if the fourth CPU core is unlocked,
it is possible that the PC won't boot successfully into the operating system.
By the way, the multiplier and Vcore unlock was not possible with every run and holds just until switching of the PC,
afterwards the previous explained steps (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/amd_phenom_ii_unlock.html) were necessary again.

But even if it just unlocks the processor until the next shutdown, it was an interesting way to overclock a locked processor to the maximum with a higher multi and higher Vcore.
And it can be a first step to crack the "new multi lock" since AMD's Socket A Barton processors.
If there are any news about the multi lock, it will be of course explained in the ocinside.de Workshop (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/workshop.html) area.

Your feedback is as always very welcome in our OC forum (http://www.forum-inside.de/) !
Because if this modification works with one processor and one motherboard, the chances are good that this unlock mod is also possible with more processors and more motherboards.


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.............. AMD/ATI FTW 2009

Saaya
07-17-2009, 12:11 AM
how can you pretty much post his entire article here instead of linking to it?
and why do you tear it apart into 20 pieces instead of putting it into one post?
and whats the big deal about this anyhow?
older boards support am3, well duh, that was the plan and everybody know it for months... i dont get it, whats so special about this article? its a nice guide for setting up an am3 system... but why post it here and not linking to the guy who wrote it?

y eye
07-17-2009, 01:11 AM
how can you pretty much post his entire article here instead of linking to it?
and why do you tear it apart into 20 pieces instead of putting it into one post?
and whats the big deal about this anyhow?
older boards support am3, well duh, that was the plan and everybody know it for months... i dont get it, whats so special about this article? its a nice guide for setting up an am3 system... but why post it here and not linking to the guy who wrote it?

It does not appear that you have used the editor here very often.
The thread is not finished.
I have asked for assistance and am waiting... ru replying to my request?
This information is old newspaper but it is very difficult to find as detailed and accurate a discription.
Why do you insist that it is questionably "so special"?
It is special because it is timely because of the financial crysis and the questionable value of 7/11. If you would check the thread I believe that you will see a connection between the motherboards listed and their updates. In addition I have provided a list of SouthBridge 750 Board IDs and tried to update them all. It has been a lot of work putting this thread together and you may not find as comprehensive a report anywhere. When it is finished it will include AMD CPUs that benefit from the article that you are questioning...
", well duh," duh?
Thank you for your duh post, responding to my request for Mod help.

1.)The thread is two thirds complete.
2.)This editor only allows 4 photos.
3.)You are a member of VR-Zone. If you want to visit snakeoil there you may find this information in the context best suited for your needs.
You can go to the source from here or at VR and you will find that there is apparently no author listed.

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AMD Phenom II CPU multiplier unlock, Vcore unlock and fourth core unlocking

detailed procedure

OverClocked inside - Redaktion ocinside.de PC hardware page (http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/amd_phenom_ii_unlock.html)

besides the thread is entertaining information, good reading and the type that has the very bad habit of disappearing...
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y eye
07-17-2009, 02:20 AM
besides the thread is entertaining information, good reading and the type that has the very bad habit of disappearing... My avatar:

http://resources.vr-zone.com/image_deposit/up2/12477198405c202b7a0f.jpg

.................................... http://resources.vr-zone.com/image_deposit/up2/12477251440a3a0292f9.jpghttp://forums.vr-zone.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=38830&dateline=1238115253

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Saaya
07-19-2009, 10:12 AM
sorry... i really dont get what your talking about...
do you speak spanish or german by any chance?

y eye
07-19-2009, 09:01 PM
sorry... i really dont get what your talking about...
do you speak spanish or german by any chance?

You are confused. Your questions are not correct English.
This thread is in English.
Your sentence is not complete.
Your spelling and use of abbreviations are not correct.
Use Google to translate to the language of your preference.

dont is not a word.
your is singular or plural possessive and does not complete your statement.

What are you asking?
English please...

Thank you for your interest,

y


Edit: Just ran across this thread. It crossed my mind that you may be bored as well as confused
so I am editing to include yet another reason for the detail of the thread that I have started.
Latest Reviews & Articles

http://media.bestofmicro.com/intel-amd-performance,7-B-216695-2.jpg (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-versus-i7,2360.html) Phenom II 955 Versus Core i7 920: Gaming Value Compared (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-versus-i7,2360.html)

The debate over whether to go entry-level Core i7 or flagship Phenom II rages on. After his most recent Phenom II system review, Don Woligroski revisits the performance of these two platforms with more tests and gives us an updated take. Read more (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-versus-i7,2360.html)

charlie
07-19-2009, 09:27 PM
I think the problem is that posts have a 1000 character limit. I am not sure how HTML and pics add to that total, but I am guessing that the limits are being hit, and the forum is either auto-posting multiple parts, or something weird is happening.

That said, can everyone try to keep quotes shorter unless absolutely necessary? If everyone thinks I should up the post limit, I can do that as well.

What do you all think?

-Charlie

y eye
07-19-2009, 11:04 PM
I think the problem is that posts have a 1000 character limit. I am not sure how HTML and pics add to that total, but I am guessing that the limits are being hit, and the forum is either auto-posting multiple parts, or something weird is happening.

That said, can everyone try to keep quotes shorter unless absolutely necessary? If everyone thinks I should up the post limit, I can do that as well.

What do you all think?

-Charlie

I vote to up the limit because I hit the text limit and photo limits. Then the forum software confused the posts and I lost a full thread. After that I tried open threads in different locations... It helped but the data was lost. Part of the problem is there does not seem to be consistancy with delete controls which compounds the entry effort exponentially. ??? Thanks,

y

Edit: example...
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Images include use of smilies, the vB code [img] tag and HTML <img> tags. The use of these is all subject to them being enabled by the administrator.

Game_boy
07-20-2009, 03:56 AM
y eye, there is no need to post the full text or many images from whatever you link to. Just post a link, and maybe one or two sentences that give an idea of the content. Posting the full thing is painful to read since it's not in its original formatting, and you're stealing revenue from the linked site.

y eye
07-20-2009, 09:31 AM
y eye, there is no need to post the full text or many images from whatever you link to. Just post a link, and maybe one or two sentences that give an idea of the content. Posting the full thing is painful to read since it's not in its original formatting, and you're stealing revenue from the linked site.
No one is stealing anything boy. Your statement is name calling. The subject is worth documenting. There are several sources and each is or will be identified. The author of one section has not been posted. The subject of that thread has been edited and there is no reference to who did the editing. This thread is not complete. If there were pages instead of blocks that are edits then it would be easier to post a long thread. If the edits do not work then I will try another solution...

You are name calling. May I ask for Moderation? Thank you, y

rich wargo
07-20-2009, 10:55 AM
Charlie, can we get some intervention here? y eye may be a senior member (whatever that means), but we don't need or want him or anyone else calling anyone a "boy" or accusing them of name calling when they clearly aren't.

Also, I would rather keep the posting limits where they are. Do we really need a full blown listing of every motherboard that supports AM3, or is y eye just posting this more for his self-gratification? I, for example, have been keeping my eye on the AMD motherboard market, but I found his list rather gratuitous and unnecessary.

He might believe it 'necessary' to post lengthly lists, but I'm not so sure. Of course, he IS a 'senior' member....

y eye
07-20-2009, 12:07 PM
Charlie, can we get some intervention here? y eye may be a senior member (whatever that means), but we don't need or want him or anyone else calling anyone a "boy" or accusing them of name calling when they clearly aren't.

Also, I would rather keep the posting limits where they are. Do we really need a full blown listing of every motherboard that supports AM3, or is y eye just posting this more for his self-gratification? I, for example, have been keeping my eye on the AMD motherboard market, but I found his list rather gratuitous and unnecessary.

He might believe it 'necessary' to post lengthly lists, but I'm not so sure. Of course, he IS a 'senior' member....

I have posted a few lists here that have not drawn criticism for their attention to detail. They are drawing high counts for reads. They include Motherboards and Video Cards. They are timely threads. They are lengthly threads. They are going to be documentary in several months.
The subject of this thread is fairly old newspaper . It began as a list... and became documentary. It is still relevant and current news. It is further a source of information that is ongoing, an example " Phenom II 955 Versus Core i7 920: Gaming Value Compared (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-versus-i7,2360.html) ". The thread is by no means complete. The ACC phenomenon is lengthly and painful for "boy" to read. I can see the same to be true for you. lol Do not read it or any part of it ever again and I assure you that it will no longer be painful. I would like to add AMD CPUs and more Motherboard updates, including 7/11 relevance. Prior to beginning this thread I received 7022 views for the motherboard listing and update and many comments, all positive, and with thanks for the source.

It may be" necessary" it may not be necessary what I believe is that the method of posting is complicating input. Your judgement is premature and flawed.

Game "boy" is name calling. His opinion is that I am stealing... You support that and that makes you a troller... lol You are calling me a thief. BS
I have asked for help with this thread. You are interupting that help. Until there is a correction to the thread I would ask that you keep your thread crapping opinion to your self.

You can say anything you want to say to or at me in a PM. In open forum you should demonstrate respect or http://resources.vr-zone.com/image_deposit/up2/1248105412d3cbc84d31.jpg Yokai
Thanks Y

265586888
07-20-2009, 12:49 PM
Charlie, can we get some intervention here? y eye may be a senior member (whatever that means), but we don't need or want him or anyone else calling anyone a "boy" or accusing them of name calling when they clearly aren't.

Also, I would rather keep the posting limits where they are. Do we really need a full blown listing of every motherboard that supports AM3, or is y eye just posting this more for his self-gratification? I, for example, have been keeping my eye on the AMD motherboard market, but I found his list rather gratuitous and unnecessary.

He might believe it 'necessary' to post lengthly lists, but I'm not so sure. Of course, he IS a 'senior' member....

Senior member means your total number of posts in the forum exceed 100, I don't think there are any extra privileges for "senior member".

265586888
07-20-2009, 12:52 PM
In open forum you should demonstrate respect

But you didn't, and that makes you don't have that right to accuse of anyone who did not respect you or the forum.

Calling someone "crapping your post" and "trolling your post" when he/she/they question whether your post is necessary isn't a kind of respect also, you should keep that in mind.

y eye
07-20-2009, 02:45 PM
But you didn't, and that makes you don't have that right to accuse of anyone who did not respect you or the forum.

Calling someone "crapping your post" and "trolling your post" when he/she/they question whether your post is necessary isn't a kind of respect also, you should keep that in mind.
When someone calls me a thief in open forum... and not stated any proof or source then I believe he has taken liberties that are beyond respect for a fellow member, virtual friend or brother... Why he and his tag team helper did that may be interesting but you will not know what I am talking about. I called for Moderation. They should be corrected and disciplined . The picture I posted is nothing more than a symbol. What it brings to mind is what has been previewed. The motivation and source of this crap may be questionable but is not for your eyes. lol

I asked for help with editing problems. Until the decision is made I can not proceed with the thread. I did not ask for help because of Saaya's comment and certainly not for yours. I asked for help to correct a editing problem...

You (plural) do not have anything more than an emotional response at stake and it stinks. You have trolled and crapped one of my threads before this little flame. Someone was kind enough to delete the evidence. You should take that as a warning. y:)

rich wargo
07-20-2009, 04:14 PM
Hmmmm.... to tease or not to tease.....

Eh, not worth the time.

Enjoy your postings, y eye.

y eye
07-20-2009, 05:55 PM
Hmmmm.... to tease or not to tease.....

Eh, not worth the time.

Enjoy your postings, y eye.
I hope you are not talking about me teasing. If you are you are mistaken...
"Eh" are you retarded?

ssj4Gogeta
07-20-2009, 07:18 PM
@y eye,
I've seen many of your threads. You simply copy and paste articles from other sites, with broken formatting and hard to read colorful text. I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong, because I can't say that unless I know what you're doing. So what exactly are you trying to do? Isn't this supposed to be a discussion forum? If you find an interesting article and want to share it with us, you can just create a new thread and provide a link to the original article, with a brief preview of what the article is about. There's absolutely no need to paste the complete article here if you want to share it (unless of course you're trying to do something else that I can't understand) because:

1) It takes away revenue from those sites. Just giving credits to the author isn't enough. Most of these sites get their money from ads, which more people would have viewed if you'd given the link to the article instead.

2) It's hard on our eyes. The formatting is broken.

3) It's not an effective way of sharing something interesting you find. People will actually steer clear of your threads and so they may miss something interesting that they wouldn't, had you given the link to the article.

@Charlie
I remember y eye said somewhere that he's on the "management side of things". So does he run the forum with you? If he's one of the owners/administrators (although it doesn't show next to his name) and you've decided it's OK to directly paste articles in the forum, then I apologize for what I said above. :)

y eye
07-20-2009, 10:39 PM
@y eye,
I've seen many of your threads. You simply copy and paste articles from other sites, with broken formatting and hard to read colorful text. I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong, because I can't say that unless I know what you're doing. So what exactly are you trying to do? Isn't this supposed to be a discussion forum? If you find an interesting article and want to share it with us, you can just create a new thread and provide a link to the original article, with a brief preview of what the article is about. There's absolutely no need to paste the complete article here if you want to share it (unless of course you're trying to do something else that I can't understand) because:

1) It takes away revenue from those sites. Just giving credits to the author isn't enough. Most of these sites get their money from ads, which more people would have viewed if you'd given the link to the article instead.

2) It's hard on our eyes. The formatting is broken.

3) It's not an effective way of sharing something interesting you find. People will actually steer clear of your threads and so they may miss something interesting that they wouldn't, had you given the link to the article.

@Charlie
I remember y eye said somewhere that he's on the "management side of things". So does he run the forum with you? If he's one of the owners/administrators (although it doesn't show next to his name) and you've decided it's OK to directly paste articles in the forum, then I apologize for what I said above.
but no cigar.

We should reconsider some of the events surrounding your flame and your motivations. Somewhere between this... 265586888 and this... ssj4Gogeta there is this...

Mario26JT
BOSS mole http://forums.vr-zone.com/avatars/mario26jt.gif?dateline=1213825930 (http://forums.vr-zone.com/members/mario26jt.html)

I remember Charlie once said something that was in reference to the group that has leeched this forum. He said "they are members of the unwashed herd"...
from Singapore (my comment which I quoted at that time in the VR-Zone forum, and that you (plural) are .

You are confused about the "revenue of these sites" I have always named the authors, clearly marked their data with quotes and objected to as many of the VR threads that are plagiarism that I clould find... including Visionary(founder) newzhunter and KonKort. What you are saying is a dead give away as to who you are, a VR-Zone leeching troll.
an example:
http://img.vrforums.com/statusicon/thread_dot_hot.gif AMD RV870 shall launch in October (http://forums.vr-zone.com/news-around-the-web/448325-amd-rv870-shall-launch-october.html) (http://img.vrforums.com/misc/multipage.gif 1 (http://forums.vr-zone.com/news-around-the-web/448325-amd-rv870-shall-launch-october.html)2 (http://forums.vr-zone.com/news-around-the-web/448325-amd-rv870-shall-launch-october-2.html))
Thread starter:............................ date .................. poster ................ replies ....... views
KonKorT ...........................Jun 26th, 09 01:20 PM.........by y eye (http://forums.vr-zone.com/members/y-eye.html) http://img.vrforums.com/buttons_style_2008/lastpost.gif (http://forums.vr-zone.com/news-around-the-web/448325-amd-rv870-shall-launch-october-2.html#post6884133) ..................10 (http://forums.vr-zone.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=448325) .......... 83,108

Now that you have had your read check the count before the last post of Jun26th, 09 01:20pm. lol Kort never complained neither did nextgengamer

ssj4Gogeta
07-21-2009, 10:15 AM
I don't know what you're implying (your post is too incoherent for me to understand), but I've never been to vr-zone. I'm ssj4Gogeta on every forum that I'm registered on and not KonKorT or any other stupid name.

I just asked you why you're copying and pasting those articles and you called it a flame. May I ask your definition of the word?

rich wargo
07-21-2009, 11:20 AM
y eye, are you drashek's nephew?

y eye
07-21-2009, 02:07 PM
y eye, are you drashek's nephew?
rich are you rich?

no s-he was my grandson lol, changes, du u know what eye mean?

Good question though because it's kinda like clones... they can not be legally eye-d-ed.

Beowulf
07-21-2009, 03:15 PM
I almost prefer the spambots, over all this non-sense on the forums :S

Some of them even make fully understandable sentences. Maybe one should re-read the post before posting?

Im sorry to say that I agree with ssj4gogeta on this one.

y eye
07-21-2009, 11:04 PM
I almost prefer the spambots, over all this non-sense on the forums :S

Some of them even make fully understandable sentences. Maybe one should re-read the post before posting?

Im sorry to say that I agree with ssj4gogeta on this one.
we all know that but why are you here?

Beowulf
07-22-2009, 02:57 AM
we all know that but why are you here?

To hopefully get some early inside information :)