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Old 05-08-2010, 11:42 AM
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And some notebook designs only allow low-profile MXM cards, and some don't have adequate cooling capacity on the fansink to cool down your new GPU...

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Everyone is talking about how great technology XGP is, but no one is ************ing the price it costs. Ferraris already come with decent graphics cards for a laptop. It's the high volume mainstream laptops that need to come with this port, with a leaflet inside avertising what you can do with that new port called XGP.
Price it right and advertise it right and in one generation you start having people in the mainstream market taking the leap forward and investing in XGP.

Unfortunately laptop manufacturers are still in "wise guy" mode, milking the laptop market as much as they can, shoving the least powerful harware they can get away with.
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You must like your laptops big, hot, and with battery lives measured in single digit minutes. Good luck with that GF100 based laptop. I have seen them (or in this case, it), and know what POSes they are.

Try and get a 5870 or a 480 into a laptop, I dare you. How about two of them? With a 3.5" 2TB HD.

Do you not get the point, or are you simply trolling?

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We are talking about the desktop replacement sector.
If you buy such a laptop you know that the battery is not
going to last several hours, you need the plug. You need the
plug anyway to power the external graphic card with XGP.
At least with MXM you have everything inside the laptop and don't
have to carry around another power supply for the external
graphic card and the box with the graphic card.
With an MXM you can upgrade che graphic chip and not
the entire laptop (wich is usually a waste).

Even ATI, was working on an MXM solution:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/d..._Solution.html
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Actually, no, desktop replacements are still PCs with notebook design philosophy, so the only comparison is just a bigger screen and better HDD options.

The same still applies to the desktop replacement notebooks. And the thinner your DTR, the higher chance the GPU was directly placed onto the notebook motherboard PCB, or a low-profile MXM discrete graphics card was used... Basically neither one leaves you any room for upgrades.
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We are talking about the desktop replacement sector.
If you buy such a laptop you know that the battery is not
going to last several hours, you need the plug. You need the
plug anyway to power the external graphic card with XGP.
At least with MXM you have everything inside the laptop and don't
have to carry around another power supply for the external
graphic card and the box with the graphic card.
With an MXM you can upgrade che graphic chip and not
the entire laptop (wich is usually a waste).

Even ATI, was working on an MXM solution:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/d..._Solution.html
Do you have any idea what you are talking about? I have a $499 thin and light AMD notebook with an XGP port beside me. You do realize that MXM is an internal card format, and XGP is an external port don't you? They are NOT mutually exclusive in any way.

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Do you have any idea what you are talking about? I have a $499 thin and light AMD notebook with an XGP port beside me. You do realize that MXM is an internal card format, and XGP is an external port don't you? They are NOT mutually exclusive in any way.

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Exactly.
Together with your thin and light AMD notebook, would
you like to bring a heavy and hefty GPU box or would you
prefer upgrade the internal GPU with a more powerful one,
keeping the light and thin laptop only?
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Exactly.
Together with your thin and light AMD notebook, would
you like to bring a heavy and hefty GPU box or would you
prefer upgrade the internal GPU with a more powerful one,
keeping the light and thin laptop only?
Oh ofcourse don't forget the other sides. Like halving your battery life, heck I doubt that the light-thin laptop can even cool it.
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Exactly.
Together with your thin and light AMD notebook, would
you like to bring a heavy and hefty GPU box or would you
prefer upgrade the internal GPU with a more powerful one,
keeping the light and thin laptop only?
Are you really that ignorant? Did you ever consider the down sides to an internal GPU? Battery life, weight, cost, cooling, thickness, and noise, among others.

You would have to be insane to prefer a castrated internal GPU to a much faster and cheaper external card that you can take with you if and when you want, plus a thinner and faster laptop that weighs less, costs less, and has longer batter life.

Internal GPUs on that level are just plain stupid.

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I am sure that nobody wants a GeForce GTX 280M on a 13.3" notebook with battery life measured in single-digit minutes.
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I am sure that nobody wants a GeForce GTX 280M on a 13.3" notebook with battery life measured in single-digit minutes and thickness in the order of tens of centimeters.
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