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Old 10-25-2010, 03:57 AM
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Default AMD ATI Radeon HD 6230 HD 6250 HD 6290 HD 6390 HD 6510 HD 6750

Copy-paste information about AMD re-brands from drivers :

"ATI Radeon HD 6230 " = ati2mtag_EvergreenC, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_300117AF
"ATI Radeon HD 6250 " = ati2mtag_EvergreenC, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_300017AF
"ATI Radeon HD 6290 " = ati2mtag_EvergreenC, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_300217AF
"ATI Radeon HD 6390 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68DA&SUBSYS_300017AF
"ATI Radeon HD 6510 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68D9&SUBSYS_300017AF
"ATI Radeon HD 6750 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68BE&SUBSYS_300017AF

Similar HD 5xxx models :

"ATI Radeon HD 5470 " = ati2mtag_EvergreenC, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_301317AF
"ATI Radeon HD 5470 " = ati2mtag_EvergreenC, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_301117AF
"ATI Radeon HD 5490 " = ati2mtag_EvergreenC, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_301217AF
"ATI Radeon HD 5630 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68DA&SUBSYS_301017AF
"ATI Radeon HD 5630 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68D9&SUBSYS_301017AF
"ATI Radeon HD 5690 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68D8&SUBSYS_301117AF
"ATI Radeon HD 5730 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68D8&SUBSYS_301017AF

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Old 10-25-2010, 04:13 AM
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Do some of those cards even exist? Is there really a 5730 or 5690? Can you rebrand cards that don't exist?
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:29 AM
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I'm guessing there will eventually be a 6750, but as for the others, numbers do of course exist, cards, no. To me that could just as well be just random numbers.

Just because there could have been a 5730, doesn't mean there were.

EDIT: Some could perhaps be future IGP or mobile solutions, like the 6250, but even if so, for now those would still need to be announced.

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Old 10-25-2010, 04:39 AM
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Fudzilla found information about Radeon HD 6250, 6390, 6510 re-brands on russian cnet
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:58 AM
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Fudzilla found information about Radeon HD 6250, 6390, 6510 re-brands on russian cnet
Still makes no sense.

First of all, the lower en spectrum of the possible new 6xxx names, according to AMD (when they try to defend the Barts rebrand) would be reserved for the Fusion gfx solutions.

Second, a very popular use of the lower end discreet cards are for HTPC builds, where the new NI features would be even more important.

EDIT: And that Fud says something usually only makes it less believable....
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Old 10-25-2010, 06:49 AM
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So here are some product codes for the HD5000 series, which I found online.

68B8 EG JUNIPER XT ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
68BE EG JUNIPER LE ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
68D9 RV830/Redwood HD 5570
68f9 Cedar ATI Radeon HD 5450

So Cedar (in its faster 5470 and an unreleased 5490) is being rebranded from HD54x0 to HD62x0. This tells us that Caicos has more power than Cedar and will slot in between Cedar and Turks.

Moreso, RV830 / Redwood is dropping from the HD 5630 to something called HD 6510. TEN! And possibly the 6390. So Caicos will be the 64x0 series, and possibly perform in-line with a low-end Redwood. I presume that Redwood will eventually be retired.

And Juniper? Juniper LE is dropping down to the HD 6750 from HD 5750... So Turks has more power than Juniper if it will become HD 67x0.

Maybe Caicos is delayed, hence this rebrand, if it occurs.
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Then explain these models too:
http://developer.amd.com/drivers/pc_...s/default.aspx

ATI Radeon HD 3410
ATI Radeon HD 3610
ATI Radeon HD 3730
ATI Radeon HD 3750
ATI Radeon HD 4580
ATI Radeon HD 4590
ATI Radeon HD 4610
ATI Radeon HD 4700
ATI Radeon HD 4710
ATI Radeon HD 4720
ATI Radeon HD 4810
ATI Radeon HD 4820
ATI Radeon HD 5490
ATI Radeon HD 5530
ATI Radeon HD 5690
ATI Radeon HD 5730

None of these are retail, and none of these are inside OEM PCs.
But they are there in the driver INFs.
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ATI Radeon 6...?
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Copy-paste information about AMD re-brands from drivers :

"ATI Radeon HD 6230 " = ati2mtag_EvergreenC, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_300117AF
"ATI Radeon HD 6250 " = ati2mtag_EvergreenC, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_300017AF
"ATI Radeon HD 6290 " = ati2mtag_EvergreenC, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_300217AF
"ATI Radeon HD 6390 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68DA&SUBSYS_300017AF
"ATI Radeon HD 6510 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68D9&SUBSYS_300017AF
"ATI Radeon HD 6750 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68BE&SUBSYS_300017AF

Similar HD 5xxx models :

"ATI Radeon HD 5470 " = ati2mtag_EvergreenC, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_301317AF
"ATI Radeon HD 5470 " = ati2mtag_EvergreenC, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_301117AF
"ATI Radeon HD 5490 " = ati2mtag_EvergreenC, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_301217AF
"ATI Radeon HD 5630 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68DA&SUBSYS_301017AF
"ATI Radeon HD 5630 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68D9&SUBSYS_301017AF
"ATI Radeon HD 5690 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68D8&SUBSYS_301117AF
"ATI Radeon HD 5730 " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68D8&SUBSYS_301017AF
I'm not sure I follow any of this. AMD are rebranding some higher clocked home cinema cards for the Russian market as I understand it. This is a local decision.

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The Vendor ID and Device ID registers identify the device, and are commonly called the PCI ID. The 16-bit vendor ID is allocated by the PCI-SIG. The 16-bit device ID is then assigned by the vendor. There is an ongoing project to collect all known Vendor and Device IDs. (See external links (below).)

The Subsystem Vendor ID and the Subsystem Device ID further identify the device. The Vendor ID is that of the chip manufacturer, and the Subsystem Vendor ID is that of the card manufacturer. The Subsystem Device ID is assigned by the subsystem vendor, but is assigned from the same number space as the Device ID.
PCI\VEN_1002 is ATI chipset.
DEV_68B8 is HD 5770 card, DEV_68BE is HD 5750, for instance.
SUBSYS_300117AF is VisionTek manufacturer.

These are not high-end cards and it would be rash to draw conclusions from that or second-guess AMD here.
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:18 PM
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I am not one for absurd theories, but this sounds like a joke from AMD. Might even spot a 6969 one of these days... Doesn't make sense any other way.
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